(01-24-2013, 07:38 AM)stanleywijaya Wrote: [ -> ]Hi,
Some photos of my car. You can see here, the steering angle is really not that big.
Because every time i increase it, the wheels suddenly shaking, off and also on the ground. =(
Did you update something or everything from the standards MST?
Thanks!
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Hi stanleywijaya!
Also you can set the caster at 10 degrees and you can give more EPA from your transmitter if you need more steering angle!:=):
Hi Mario,
I added the caster and now its a little bit better.. but still the shaking that i dont understand.
I tried today to run it without wheels and it was just fine.
And when i put wheels on it, it start shaking again...:='(:
Should i use another shaft? Like team suzuki shaft? Is t gonna help? En does it fit?
(01-31-2013, 06:04 AM)Dorvack Wrote: [ -> ]Is it only shaking on the inside wheel in a turn? This could indicate that you have 'over-stretched' your turnbuckles.
Dorvack.
Hmm... i see what you mean.. i will try to shortened the turnbuckles, let see what happen..
Thanks !!
Hi all,
I think the shacking while its full lock, it almost gone now..
The caster, it was 14, i changed it to 10..
The turnbuckles is also shortened..
and now there is still some shaking when turns

..
You can see it here on my video...
Is this normal ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55imMENhQko
The shake is caused because the steering knuckle and turnbuckle are at their end of limits and inline with each other.
Turn the wheel full lock with no throttle and shake the wheel by hand. Alot of slop will show.
The radian of the knuckle is inline with the turnbuckle's end of stroke.
The only way to fix this is to make an extension for the turnbuckle on the knuckle that will position the turnbuckle at a misalignment angle to the knuckle at full lock.
It's hard for me to explain this.
(02-02-2013, 10:41 PM)JeepinDoug Wrote: [ -> ]The shake is caused because the steering knuckle and turnbuckle are at their end of limits and inline with each other.
Turn the wheel full lock with no throttle and shake the wheel by hand. Alot of slop will show.
The radian of the knuckle is inline with the turnbuckle's end of stroke.
The only way to fix this is to make an extension for the turnbuckle on the knuckle that will position the turnbuckle at a misalignment angle to the knuckle at full lock.
It's hard for me to explain this.
Yes exactly!! The inline make it slop... thanks for the explanation..
I will try the extension one.. did u do it with ur car also?
(02-03-2013, 12:02 AM)stanleywijaya Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2013, 10:41 PM)JeepinDoug Wrote: [ -> ]The shake is caused because the steering knuckle and turnbuckle are at their end of limits and inline with each other.
Turn the wheel full lock with no throttle and shake the wheel by hand. Alot of slop will show.
The radian of the knuckle is inline with the turnbuckle's end of stroke.
The only way to fix this is to make an extension for the turnbuckle on the knuckle that will position the turnbuckle at a misalignment angle to the knuckle at full lock.
It's hard for me to explain this.
Yes exactly!! The inline make it slop... thanks for the explanation..
I will try the extension one.. did u do it with ur car also?
I drive on carpet with with 9* of camber, 14* of caster and HPI slick T-drifts.
My steering is so sensitive I don't need to use all the steering.
I just dial my EPAs back to the point the wheels don't chatter.
Be aware MST's 60* CVDs are fragile. If you hit something at full lock they will break, I've gone through a few sets.
(02-03-2013, 05:04 AM)JeepinDoug Wrote: [ -> ] (02-03-2013, 12:02 AM)stanleywijaya Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2013, 10:41 PM)JeepinDoug Wrote: [ -> ]The shake is caused because the steering knuckle and turnbuckle are at their end of limits and inline with each other.
Turn the wheel full lock with no throttle and shake the wheel by hand. Alot of slop will show.
The radian of the knuckle is inline with the turnbuckle's end of stroke.
The only way to fix this is to make an extension for the turnbuckle on the knuckle that will position the turnbuckle at a misalignment angle to the knuckle at full lock.
It's hard for me to explain this.
Yes exactly!! The inline make it slop... thanks for the explanation..
I will try the extension one.. did u do it with ur car also?
I drive on carpet with with 9* of camber, 14* of caster and HPI slick T-drifts.
My steering is so sensitive I don't need to use all the steering.
I just dial my EPAs back to the point the wheels don't chatter.
Be aware MST's 60* CVDs are fragile. If you hit something at full lock they will break, I've gone through a few sets.
Do you know maybe another CVD that fits on MST? That is a little bit better..
Thanks for the warning..
I really dont know how to put the extension, i think i just decrease the angle..
I just curious about the Mario's MST, does he have the same problem with his big steering angle?
(02-03-2013, 07:32 PM)stanleywijaya Wrote: [ -> ] (02-03-2013, 05:04 AM)JeepinDoug Wrote: [ -> ] (02-03-2013, 12:02 AM)stanleywijaya Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2013, 10:41 PM)JeepinDoug Wrote: [ -> ]The shake is caused because the steering knuckle and turnbuckle are at their end of limits and inline with each other.
Turn the wheel full lock with no throttle and shake the wheel by hand. Alot of slop will show.
The radian of the knuckle is inline with the turnbuckle's end of stroke.
The only way to fix this is to make an extension for the turnbuckle on the knuckle that will position the turnbuckle at a misalignment angle to the knuckle at full lock.
It's hard for me to explain this.
Yes exactly!! The inline make it slop... thanks for the explanation..
I will try the extension one.. did u do it with ur car also?
I drive on carpet with with 9* of camber, 14* of caster and HPI slick T-drifts.
My steering is so sensitive I don't need to use all the steering.
I just dial my EPAs back to the point the wheels don't chatter.
Be aware MST's 60* CVDs are fragile. If you hit something at full lock they will break, I've gone through a few sets.
Do you know maybe another CVD that fits on MST? That is a little bit better..
Thanks for the warning..
I really dont know how to put the extension, i think i just decrease the angle..
I just curious about the Mario's MST, does he have the same problem with his big steering angle?
Hi there!!
Don't forget that my fs-01d its without Cvds on the front!!with the stock Mst cvds when i am running Cs setup starting chatter up to 45 degrees..especially if i have 14 degrees caster!!also a bad quality tires or a damaged wheel, maybe gives more vibration in the front cvds!! don't try to extension the steering hub ackerman holes!in the fs-01d is one way...the best position for the turnbuckle is in the brake caliper hole!!gives more steering angle and better parallel ackerman!!
Thanks!
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